Wipipedia.org talk:Community Portal

Revision as of 13:33, 7 May 2007

Copyright

Images

I have just seen an image from here on Wikimedia. It has the GNU Free Documentation License attributed to it (user:Balzac) even though the image doesn't say so on this site. It IS reasonable to assume that unless an image has anything specific, it falls under the site's overall licence but I am not sure this is so in every case and I feel we really must go through all the images we have on this site putting copyright notices on them ALL. There are templates to assist. We might otherwise be exposed to quite severe penalties. I can start going through them myself but unless there is some annotation, the best I could do is remove the image (perhaps first putting it in a new category "about to be deleted" for a while). --Interesdom 07:30, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Non-consensuality vs BDSM

With all the publicity around about forced-labour and forced prostitution etc. I have little doubt that some people looking for links about nonconsensual slavery will end up on this site. It occurs to me that we should have a page on it, distancing this site and BDSM generally and pointing to other sites such as the BBC (I have the link somewhere) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery etc.

What does anyone else reckon and does anyone want to start it? I'm not sure what title for the topic would be best.

--Interesdom 18:08, 11 May 2005 (BST)

Take a peek at slavery and see what you think. I don't think the site needs to take such a negative stance with something that is generally accepted (outside of BDSM anyways) to be an illegal activity. It's assumed outside the BDSM lifestyle that slavery is socially unacceptable. --Vicious Lover 05:47:11, 2005-12-26 (GMT)

Topic Labels - abbreviations or not?

Please see Talk:Safe, sane, and consensual for proposals I have in this area. --Interesdom 19:10, 28 May 2005 (BST)

Topic Labels - Singular or plural

We currently have a mixture. What is the 'correct' ruling for this? Cane, Dildo and Paddle but Blindfolds, Spreader bars and Violet wands. I can understand some things remaining 'plural' even if we have singular - Handcuffs for example because we don't use 'handcuff' as a noun. Similarly, if we go plural, some things will make easier reading in the singular, such as St Andrews cross. Nevertheless, I think it would make easier navigating and linking if we were consistent.

Again, much easier if we sort this out now rather than wait until there's many more links. Any ideas?

--Interesdom 16:51, 20 Jun 2005 (BST)

I try (most of the time) to use the singular. Balzac 17:19, 20 Jun 2005 (BST)

There are always redirects. I know they are a pain in the @ss, but they are very effective in keeping people from getting lost. --Vicious Lover 05:50:07, 2005-12-26 (GMT)

Technical flaw

I repeatedly found that the Search/Go functions did NOT contain the clickable link to start creating an article (just some coe, probably with a small but critical error in it), while that is still possible if one first creates a 'red link' in an existing article, so the actual creation routine must still be valid - probably a small task for an expert, but greatly needed! Kosmetès 19:17:50, 2005-11-20 (GMT)

Thanks for pointiong that out. We upgraded to a new version of the software recently, there must still be some bugs to iron out! Balzac 23:12, 20 November 2005 (GMT)

Fixed it. --Interesdom 18:32, 24 November 2005 (GMT)

Copying from Wikipedia

Now that this encyclopaedia is established, I really don't think there is benefit in copying vast amounts from Wikipedia, especially without any alterations to change the point-of-view, or to add anything specifically Fetish or BDSM to the content. Wikipedia will always have a greater number of readers and editors than this encyclopaedia and so will always be able to be better and more informative on the 'standard' aspects of things. I think there is far better value in letting Wikipedia handle the main topic (such as cat o'nine tails) while this encyclopaedia just handles the specific aspects of Fetish/BDSM and puts that perspective and meaning on topics. After all, if I wanted to really know the 'standard' definition and use of some word, I will use Wikipedia. I come here - and edit/contribute here - for the Fetish & BDSM context or information.

As a further note, we must ensure that we credit Wikipedia whenever we use copy from there, in accordance with the terms of its licence. See the template Wikipedia and its discussion page.

--Interesdom 18:53, 24 November 2005 (GMT)

Any chance of a bit more, well, community?

The community talk page is empty and hasn't been edited since November

I can't find any list of admins to talk to regarding general newbie questions and stuff

Come on, this could be so great a project if people pulled together a bit more.

--Mistress Selina Kyle 13:17, 24 December 2005 (GMT) (The same Mistress Selina Kyle from Wikipedia)

>>>> P.S. Clicking the link above incorrectly displays that you're still on the Wipipedia website in the address bar, not Wikipedia - I guess this is because you are using frames to hide the lfhosting address - maybe you should make it so external links open automatically in a new window to avoid opening in a frame, or use "a href="whatever" target="_top"> to make it open ignoring the frame as a proper link.

alternately you might want to set up your website DNS to point directly to lfhosting instead of simply having a "frame" page on wipipedia.org that displays the real site, lfhosting in the frame: talk to your host if you don't know how to do this :)

Yeah, I know I'm clever. Thank me later. ;) :p --Mistress Selina Kyle 13:20, 24 December 2005 (GMT)

Above message also on Talk:Main Page in hopes someone'll see it! --Mistress Selina Kyle 13:22, 24 December 2005 (GMT)

User Templates/Userboxes

I'm a member of the wikipedia userbox project (SeeWikiproject Userboxes) and I think it might be a good idea to set up our own templates here, so that we can easily say what sexual fetishes etc we have, like or like to have. I've already got an idea to seperate the templates into topics, such as Alt Sex, BDSM, Bondage, Clubs, Fetishes, Toys and Wipipedia. I created a link for it, WipiProject Userboxes. ISD 07:06, 24 May 2006 (GMT)

Wikipedia article on Wipipedia proposed for deletion

Wikipedia is thinking of deleting the article for Wipipedia. The article may be deleted on 23 June 2006 if the article is not improved. Please help improve our article! ISD 17:53, 18 June 2006 (GMT)

I can't see how amending the article would help. They say it's a good article, but that this site is insufficiently notable to be worth an article. The thing to do is to get everyone we know who is a Wikipedia editor to say that it is a notable site. --Taxwoman 21:39, 18 June 2006 (BST)

The article has been kept! Thanks to everyone who helped save it. ISD 06:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Pornographic images

We have had a number of posts of pornographic images to the site and I think we need to agree a policy regarding this. I have no problem with porn as such, and this is an adult orientated site but we do not have a splash screen warning users that they may come across pornographic images. It is also a UK hosted site so comes under UK jurisdiction in terms of obscene publication laws. My feeling is we should limit any images to softcore only and there must be a clear statement about the licence of any image uploaded to protect us against any possible claims from the image owner. Opinions please. Balzac 17:29, 8 July 2006 (BST)

I'm comfortable with the images already posted. I feel that as long as the copyright is mentioned, then it is alright to post them. ISD 20:45, 8 July 2006 (BST)

Wiki for Porn

Some of you might be interested to know that I'm working on Wiki for Porn, it's a GFDL licensed Wiki, well, you guessed it, for porn. We will probably have some more explicit material on the site. And, since it's GFDL, some articles will be based on Wipipedia articles. It might even be cool to set up interwiki links on articles that are available on both wikis. Fantasia 08:24, 5 November 2006 (GMT)

Fuck

Why is this word "nothing to do with BDSM" (and therefore deleted)? I thought MineShaft's final version was quite good (sorry, only admin can see deleted pages), linking as it did to three valid topics in Wipipedia and being synoptic (though perhaps the first sentence (opinion) could be removed). BDSM and fetish is, for many, largely about sensuality/sexuality and fucking is a major culmination of sexual activity. I'm all for un-deleting, at least until we can have a debate over it. --Interesdom 07:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

It's been deleted before. However, this is a community endeavour and if others want the article restored, please go ahead.--Taxwoman 20:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

It has been restored and so far no-one has put any discussion on it about deletion. Maybe it will stay? --Interesdom 05:43, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I've decided after much thought that I'm indifferent. It is probably slightly out of scope for Wipipedia, but some people would expect to find an article like it.--Taxwoman 14:13, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Re-fuck article Fuck; I will improve the fucking article. So bring it back; I promise to make it S&M sick.--MineShaft 05:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Hard core porn images

We need copyright-free porn images to decorate our articles. For instance, I want some hard core scat fisting pix (been there, done that, but forgot to take Polaroids). I do have some Polaroids of me wrecked with five needles in each tit. Forgot to sign, so I do: --MineShaft 06:44, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

We need to ensure that nothing breaches English obscenity laws, or there might be legal action against us. I would certainly delete anything I thought might get us into trouble. --Taxwoman 10:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Namespace

I've seen a couple of pages which I think belong in the Wipipedia: or Help: namespace. I haven't moved them since I'm still a little vague about what really belongs where, and why. However, both Editing policy and Edit wars are to do with maintaining the encyclopeadia rather than being content that belongs IN it. Should they be moved, and where? --Interesdom 09:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I've moved Edit wars to Wipipedia space; I'm not sure about Editing policy.--Taxwoman 10:49, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Delete Maeoniae

I'm not even sure of the procedure to start a deletion discussion here, but the guy who started the article never really replied to my comments on Talk:Maeoniae, and I very strongly suspect the whole thing is completely bogus. AnonMoos 17:47, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion it is a complete hoax, but to the author's credit, it is very well done. I added the section with the link to the wikipedia deletion discussion. Personally I am happy to leave it up as a bit of fun, providing we are not trying to pass it off un challenged. But if there is a consensus to delete then I won't object. Balzac 21:54, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm in two minds about it and happy to go either way. On the general issue, I could easily start a VfD page.--Taxwoman 22:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

We don't have a specific procedure to propose deletions and, given the mess that Wikipedia is in some areas, I'm not sure that is such a bad thing on a smaller-scale encyclopedia like this: the talk pages should suffice. I've added my comments about deleting Maeoniae at Talk:Maeoniae . --Interesdom 09:39, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I just think that if we want to keep it as an example of marvelous bullshit, then we should move it to "Story:Maeoniae" or whatever, and remove all pretenses and claims to encyclopedicity. I'm not sure that a brief header which vaguely casts suspicion on the article is quite adequate. AnonMoos 07:56, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Moved it to "Story:". AnonMoos 21:17, 31 March 2007 (BST)

Uploading images

I don;t know if this is the right place, but i extended the articcle about chastity belts by copying the wikipedia=page. Problem: why aren't the pics visible? Where/how to load them? Please let me know: chastityslave22@hotmail.com, so i can correct this.
{Comment by Chastityslave, 16:58, 7 May 2007}

I've had to revert you. We shouldn't just delete our article and replace it with the Wikipedia one. To upload photos, put them on your hard disk and click on "Upload file" on the list at the left of the screen.--Taxwoman 18:33, 7 May 2007 (BST)